I wonder if it would have been worth it to Microsoft to delay the Pro 3 until October for Core M. That's ultimately a 4 month delay though, so they might refresh it around February or March. It's begging for a Broadwell chip though; the Helix seems to be targeted in the same general direction but is obviously a little more traditional of a convertible.
The right move with the helix is that it's got broadwell core M. When I first saw they are releasing a newer helix, I was like "commmooon Lenovo, just when there is broadwell coming, you are releasing the haswell version just like the first one". But not disappointed this time. Just waiting and saving pennies.
Who knows? Maybe Helix is using heavier parts? Maybe their case is a little thicker? Maybe the screen size has nothing to do with the tablet dimensions and it's actually a larger volume?
Meh...Is this a tech site or Engadget? Who the hell need 1080p displays on tablets?! Are you crazy? If you think you are not -- still go see the doctor and check your damn vision.
The only interesting here would be new Yoga Pro with Core M and better quality (higher brightness, not a pentile with yellow fix) display.
Don't be so dismissive. I'm typing with my 10.5" 1080p Surface Pro on my lap, and I can still see every single pixel. Not that I could necessarily read 3x5 pixel fonts fluidly, but I could definitely see that kind of texture on a suitably-resolute image.
Yes, 1080p on a tablet is necessary. I'll allow you your argument on the 5" phones, but not here.
Even on a 5" phone I can make out the differences between 720p and 1080p as long as its not more than a full arms length away. Is it necessary? No, but it is noticeable.
I only realised this now, but the "basic keyboard" dock is similar to the ThinkPad 10's keyboard dock. The "pro keyboard" dock is similar to the original Helix keyboard.
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Drumsticks - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
I wonder if it would have been worth it to Microsoft to delay the Pro 3 until October for Core M. That's ultimately a 4 month delay though, so they might refresh it around February or March. It's begging for a Broadwell chip though; the Helix seems to be targeted in the same general direction but is obviously a little more traditional of a convertible.smorebuds - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
Could be they're waiting for more Broadwell chips to come out so they can refresh the whole line-up.fokka - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
ms would be well advised to jump on the broadwell and core-m bandwagon as soon as possible.mkozakewich - Friday, September 5, 2014 - link
They seem to be releasing every 8 months, so Surface Pro 4 should be out at the end of February.rituraj - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
The right move with the helix is that it's got broadwell core M. When I first saw they are releasing a newer helix, I was like "commmooon Lenovo, just when there is broadwell coming, you are releasing the haswell version just like the first one". But not disappointed this time. Just waiting and saving pennies.North01 - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
Why is this?Helix tablet | 11.6" display | Broadwell-Y | no fan | 1.76 lbs
Surface Pro 3 | 12.5" display | Haswell-U | fan | 1.76 lbs
North01 - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
*Correction: Surface Pro 3 has a 12" display*edwpang - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
Helix has a keyboard.arsjum - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
Helix tablet is 1.76 lbs without the keyboard.arsjum - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
This is exactly what I was wondering and I am glad someone else has noticed it.mkozakewich - Friday, September 5, 2014 - link
Who knows? Maybe Helix is using heavier parts? Maybe their case is a little thicker? Maybe the screen size has nothing to do with the tablet dimensions and it's actually a larger volume?SanX - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
Meh...Is this a tech site or Engadget? Who the hell need 1080p displays on tablets?! Are you crazy? If you think you are not -- still go see the doctor and check your damn vision.The only interesting here would be new Yoga Pro with Core M and better quality (higher brightness, not a pentile with yellow fix) display.
kyuu - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
What in the heck are you trying to say? 1080p on a tablet isn't good enough, or is too much? Either way you're wrong, though.And Engadget is a tech site; they value quantity of articles over quality, sure, but that doesn't make them not a tech site.
mkozakewich - Friday, September 5, 2014 - link
Don't be so dismissive. I'm typing with my 10.5" 1080p Surface Pro on my lap, and I can still see every single pixel. Not that I could necessarily read 3x5 pixel fonts fluidly, but I could definitely see that kind of texture on a suitably-resolute image.Yes, 1080p on a tablet is necessary. I'll allow you your argument on the 5" phones, but not here.
blzd - Sunday, September 7, 2014 - link
Even on a 5" phone I can make out the differences between 720p and 1080p as long as its not more than a full arms length away. Is it necessary? No, but it is noticeable.Now 2k resolution you're on to something.
blzd - Sunday, September 7, 2014 - link
You can't see what others find clearly distinguishable? I think you may need to follow your own advice there.Last I checked I wasn't crazy, but perhaps in the end it will be determined that the world is crazy and you're the sane one.
North01 - Thursday, September 4, 2014 - link
I only realised this now, but the "basic keyboard" dock is similar to the ThinkPad 10's keyboard dock. The "pro keyboard" dock is similar to the original Helix keyboard.Basic Keyboard Dock - Image:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/upload...
Pro Keyboard Dock - Image:
http://www.theinquirer.net/IMG/106/297106/lenovo-t...
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ThinkPad Helix (original)
Tablet weight = 1.8 lbs
Tablet + Keybaord = 3.8 lbs
ThinkPad Helix (new)
Tablet = 1.8 lbs
Tablet + Basic Keyboard = 3.0 lbs
Tablet + Pro Keyboard = 3.7 lbs