Honestly I think the P600/400 cards are the most interesting of the lot; if only because the savagely cut down GP107 sits at the same performance level as the long rumored GP108.
I think that ship has sailed for gaming cards. Motherboards and cases are now laid out to accommodate dual slot expansion cards, so there's little incentive for single slot cooling in gaming cards.
And what was the last reference single slot gaming card? An 8800 GT at like 100W? Even GP106 generally needs 120W.
XFX has a single slot RX 460 and ELSA has a single slot GTX 1050 Ti. The latter seems to be available in Japan only and incredibly expensive. The XFX RX-460P4TFG5 is $140 on Newegg which is not cheap at all for an RX 460 but at least it's available.
Whos plan? That's never going to happen. If you find such (rare) workloads they'd run most efficiently on a DSP or GPU. We are building the CPUs to handle everything else.
Omg give me a p600 in a consumer card as a gtx 1040!! I'd love a half height single slot gpu from this generation! My low profile single slot HD 7750 is really showing its age.
There is a single slot 460. Single slot but not low profile (half height). Also I don't care if its reference design or not, we need smaller cards to replace the ancient gt730.
That video card is full height and dual slot. I think the discussion is about half height single slot graphics cards. At the present time, the most powerful GPU available that meets those criteria is the GT 730 which really isn't much of a gaming card.
Thanks, my bad. Having an i3 HP SFF machine I picked up on Black Friday I had hoped the fact that it only used one slot to hold it meant it was half height as well.
Some of the two slot cards appear to have low profile alternative mounting plates. So all I need is one of those designs that only has say an HDMI and a DP connection and ditches the DVI. Apparently I am not alone in waiting for this Unicorn.
If all you need is one DP and one HDMI, and you can handle a dual slot cooler, then you might not need to wait long. AT ran a news article not long ago for a half height 1050 and 1050Ti from GALAX. When the article went online a couple days ago, there wasn't availability on it, but I'm almost certain there's more than one company selling half height 1050s, just not outfitted with single slot coolers. Anyway, the GALAX card still has a DVI port, but it otherwise might fit your needs.
The cost for the performance is probably going to be pretty stupid versus a consumer card but the P600 and P400 are almost enticing enough to lure me back into a desktop gaming box. Thus far, they're the only GPUs with reasonable TDP released this generation and the half height & single slot form factor is nice too. I'm so sick of seeing dual slot graphics cards.
You can take current nVidia gaming GPU and lower its power limit to about 50 - 75 % and still get decent performance in the range of 75 - 85% of the original performance. E.g. on my GTX1070 running compute woakloads: 2.0 GHz @ 130 W, 1.5 GHz @ 75 W.
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DanNeely - Sunday, February 5, 2017 - link
Honestly I think the P600/400 cards are the most interesting of the lot; if only because the savagely cut down GP107 sits at the same performance level as the long rumored GP108.Charlie22911 - Sunday, February 5, 2017 - link
A single slot consumer card would be nice, I always chuckle when I see a triple slot 1060.ImSpartacus - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
I think that ship has sailed for gaming cards. Motherboards and cases are now laid out to accommodate dual slot expansion cards, so there's little incentive for single slot cooling in gaming cards.And what was the last reference single slot gaming card? An 8800 GT at like 100W? Even GP106 generally needs 120W.
chx1975 - Wednesday, March 22, 2017 - link
XFX has a single slot RX 460 and ELSA has a single slot GTX 1050 Ti. The latter seems to be available in Japan only and incredibly expensive. The XFX RX-460P4TFG5 is $140 on Newegg which is not cheap at all for an RX 460 but at least it's available.lilmoe - Sunday, February 5, 2017 - link
If only CPUs came with 40-100% performance gain with every generation...DanNeely - Sunday, February 5, 2017 - link
If only CPUs ran workloads that could scale with near infinite numbers of cores...lilmoe - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
That's the plan. It's just taking too damn long.MrSpadge - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
Whos plan? That's never going to happen. If you find such (rare) workloads they'd run most efficiently on a DSP or GPU. We are building the CPUs to handle everything else.lilmoe - Tuesday, February 7, 2017 - link
You haven't used the latest Visual Studio, have you....iAPX - Monday, February 13, 2017 - link
You didn't know Amdahl's Law, did you?ImSpartacus - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
If only CPUs could just scale up in both power consumption and compute resources every year...Ej24 - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
Omg give me a p600 in a consumer card as a gtx 1040!! I'd love a half height single slot gpu from this generation! My low profile single slot HD 7750 is really showing its age.ImSpartacus - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
Isn't there a single slot 460 by XFX?http://techreport.com/news/31028/xfx-rx-460-core-s...
I don't think you're going to get a reference single slot card any time soon.
Ej24 - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
There is a single slot 460. Single slot but not low profile (half height). Also I don't care if its reference design or not, we need smaller cards to replace the ancient gt730.RBFL - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
Like this ?https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zot...
BrokenCrayons - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
That video card is full height and dual slot. I think the discussion is about half height single slot graphics cards. At the present time, the most powerful GPU available that meets those criteria is the GT 730 which really isn't much of a gaming card.RBFL - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
Thanks, my bad. Having an i3 HP SFF machine I picked up on Black Friday I had hoped the fact that it only used one slot to hold it meant it was half height as well.Some of the two slot cards appear to have low profile alternative mounting plates. So all I need is one of those designs that only has say an HDMI and a DP connection and ditches the DVI. Apparently I am not alone in waiting for this Unicorn.
BrokenCrayons - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
If all you need is one DP and one HDMI, and you can handle a dual slot cooler, then you might not need to wait long. AT ran a news article not long ago for a half height 1050 and 1050Ti from GALAX. When the article went online a couple days ago, there wasn't availability on it, but I'm almost certain there's more than one company selling half height 1050s, just not outfitted with single slot coolers. Anyway, the GALAX card still has a DVI port, but it otherwise might fit your needs.http://www.anandtech.com/show/11094/galax-adds-low...
Ej24 - Tuesday, February 7, 2017 - link
Actually the Radeon HD 7750 aka R7 250E is still the best single slot, half height card. Hard to find many anymore.BrokenCrayons - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
The cost for the performance is probably going to be pretty stupid versus a consumer card but the P600 and P400 are almost enticing enough to lure me back into a desktop gaming box. Thus far, they're the only GPUs with reasonable TDP released this generation and the half height & single slot form factor is nice too. I'm so sick of seeing dual slot graphics cards.MrSpadge - Monday, February 6, 2017 - link
You can take current nVidia gaming GPU and lower its power limit to about 50 - 75 % and still get decent performance in the range of 75 - 85% of the original performance. E.g. on my GTX1070 running compute woakloads: 2.0 GHz @ 130 W, 1.5 GHz @ 75 W.