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  • ghanz - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    An extra "1" on the EVGA GTX 1080 boost clock. 11847MHz Boost clock is possible another 2 decades perhaps :).
  • HollyDOL - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Hehe, I wouldn't mind such model :-) But that's clearly subconscious wishful thinking at work here... both on my side and the author's...
  • nathanddrews - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Why is the model with higher base and boost clock (assuming 1847MHz) selling for $50 less?

    Also, glad to see some 1080 cards that might actually hold an OC longer than 10 minutes.
  • nathanddrews - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Nevermind, I thought that was a comparison of EVGA vs Zotac. Haha, the FE is such a scam.
  • Monkfishy - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Nvidia has an "early adopters" tax on its reference "founders" edition GTX 1080. Never ever buy reference cards. They are overpriced, have bad cooling solutions and are more expensive than Aftermarket cards from MSi, Gigabyte, Zotac, EVGA etc...
  • Samus - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Umm, reference cards have arguably the best cooling solutions from a reliability standpoint. They are designed to go into an OEM chassis and work for years without any maintenance. They also work in any chassis from SFX/ITX to large workstations because cooling volume inside the case is unimportant.
  • AnnonymousCoward - Sunday, May 29, 2016 - link

    Not from a noise standpoint.
  • Samus - Sunday, May 29, 2016 - link

    Most gamers fall into two categories: headphones or loud speakers.

    Noise is irrelevant. These are not the GTX 580 days. Most modern cards, presumably these (since the 970/980 were partially passive cooled) don't even run the fan at idle, and if they do, it's virtually silent. And in a game, the volume of the game will mask it. My PNY 970 blower can not be heard during hours of gaming, even mildly overclocked, in a tiny FT03-mini case.

    Top down coolers just don't make sense. It's fine for a CPU to exhaust the heat into the chassis, but triple the heat? Gaming GPU's are 140-180 watts and gaming CPU's are ~60 watts.
  • ognacy - Monday, May 30, 2016 - link

    "Noise is irrelevant"

    Not for those that do content creation and play games on the same rig (like myself). I want this stuff quiet under full load for hours. And, fortunately, the market is full of quiet and fast CPUs and GPUs. I am currently using a Xeon E5-1660-v3 at 4.2GHz, on air, that's 8 cores, 2x nvidia 970 in a quiet case with a few Noctua fans - and I honestly can barely hear it under full load, and it's certainly not loud. To me, and I am sure many others, noise level is key when choosing.
  • Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Same here, I have a case with plenty of airflow so I don't mind more efficient top-down coolers one bit. I'm probably going with dual 1070 to replace my 2x R9 290'
  • usernametaken76 - Monday, May 30, 2016 - link

    You were trolling, weren't you?
  • SlyNine - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Dam I'll take it. That'll be great for some vr if the add more memory and bus speed. 8k vr here I come
  • SpetsnazAntiVIP - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Definitely going to wait for the EVGA card here. NVIDIA can go fly a kite with that $100 early adopter's tax BS.
  • Flunk - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Why wouldn't you? You'd have to be an idiot to buy the sucker edition.
  • mordhau5 - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    I'm in the process of talking my friend into canceling his FE preorder. What madness the 1080 has wrought on normally sensible people!
  • brucek2 - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Many of these aftermarket cards will turn out to be fine cards with mildly better performance and modestly less cost. The aesthetics and fan v. blower applicability are up to the individual buyer's tastes/situation of course. But if I needed a card right now, the biggest factor by far for me would be that some of these aftermarket designs will turn out to have reliability, noise and/or whine issues and there's no way for an ordinary buyer to know today which is which. These answers will all be clear in 2-3 months but keep in mind that in the same way the perf gain is mild, and the cost saving is moderate, a 2-3 month delay in acquiring a top tier card whose reign will last maybe 12 months is also a mild/moderate loss of its own right -- you are giving up a lot of performance in the initial period to get a mild boost for the remainder of the period.

    I'm waiting because my my current situation is OK - but if I had been making do with a card that wasn't really enough for me while waiting for this launch, then the "sucker edition" could make a lot of sense.

    Finally, I would not be shocked if for many day one purchasers of this card, a $50/$100 difference is pocket change of the sort they do not want to spend more than 2 minutes making a decision on. Once they've heard "this is the best card", their decision was done. I suspect nvidia knows/is testing this.
  • taisserroots - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link

    http://imgur.com/wo65qIy
  • Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Who upgrades cards every year these days?
  • Samus - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    So far, the only blower models are the early adapters cards, and that's a requirement if you are putting one in a tiny ITX chassis. Until someone like PNY makes a cheat blower model the founders edition is all that will work in two of my 3 cases.

    And there is no arguing the vapor chamber coolers are the most reliable in the industry. I came across a GTX 770 the other day, at least 3 years old, out of a dusty ass workstation and the card is still silent, the motor bearings are perfect and the blower and fins cleaned up well.
  • taisserroots - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link

    http://imgur.com/wo65qIy
    Like this?
  • HollyDOL - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Indeed, for same $100 you probably get model running ~ 10% faster at same or better temperature/loudness... in 2-3 months give or take. Not that I couldn't understand the "Lego under the xmas tree" feelings of early adopters :-)
  • crimsonson - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Actually, look at it this way. The Founders Edition FORCED all 3rd party makers to price better cooled and OC'd version of the 1080 for LESS than the standard version. Normally, you would see $50-$150 difference. Now they are forced to do it on the low end.

    It actually benefiting the end users. It actually forced the third party to lower the profit margin.

    I'm sure this was Nvidia's plan all along in order to combat any AMD price adjustment they normally do after a new NVidia card is released.
  • crimsonson - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    "1080 for LESS than the standard version." as in Founders Edition. Not the normal 1080 version. Sorry about that.
  • Morawka - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    yeah but these custom PCB cards arent much cheaper. Maybe $50 off the founders edition. The only $599 one i saw was a plastic shroud with a blower type, and my gtx 960 looks better than that.

    Founders buyers will also have their cards 2-3 weeks before custom buyers, and gaining HWBot points and playing the latest titles while you guys wait for while.
  • cmdrdredd - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Playing the latest titles? You mean like Doom that we've been playing for 2 weeks already?
  • taisserroots - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link

    Here are offerings from EVGA which are cheaper
    http://imgur.com/wo65qIy
  • Pneumothorax - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Any mention if these have a better power delivery section, ie 8/6 pin and more VRM's? Not the 'nerfed' single 8 pin connector of the 'sucker's edition'?
  • eddman - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    I don't think 225W would be much of a limiting factor, but if you really want to go overboard there is the 8+8 pin EVGA 1080 FTW, although I don't see how this GPU could ever come close to even 300W, let alone 375W.

    http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/EVGA-GeForce-G...
  • Morawka - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    This, the beefed up power delivery is wasted on a 1080 because of it's TDP limit. It's only valuable for LN2 overclockers who volt mod and install custom firmwares. Your not gonna get better clocks unless you buy a binned chip. FE buyers can just raise the fan speed and get the same effect as custom cards.
  • taisserroots - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link

    It's cheaper than founder's edition
  • extide - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Are these fully custom, or semi-custom (ref pcb or custom pcb?)
  • Ryan Smith - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    Given the timing I expect the EVGA is semi-custom. The Zotac is unknown.
  • TheGame21x - Friday, May 27, 2016 - link

    I'm not seeing a backplate on that EVGA card...hope I'm not going to have to fork over another $30 to get one like I did for my 970...
  • taisserroots - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link

    There is one on a more complete set of pictures
  • londedoganet - Saturday, May 28, 2016 - link

    As an engineer, the term "0dB fan" doesn't sit well with me. Decibels measure ratios, and a ratio of 0dB is a 1-to-1 ratio. So, what is the fan noise one-to-one with, exactly?
  • usernametaken76 - Monday, May 30, 2016 - link

    Flatulence.
  • Murloc - Sunday, May 29, 2016 - link

    "both cards will have a 0 dB fan idle mode that they call Freeze, which stops the fan under low load situations"

    lower end cards with this that actually do this for stuff like plain html webbrowsing, pdf reading and word writing would be awesome since I use my PC both for gaming and work.
  • soldier45 - Monday, May 30, 2016 - link

    Looking forward to upgrading my 780 classified to a 1080 classified in July.
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