With the major component decisions out of the way, it was time to make a decision on what peripherals I wanted and then those that I could actually afford. It turns out in my original budgeting process that I made some assumptions on cooling and audio that were wrong - at least wrong in the fact that I thought the retail kit extras or "hand me down" components would suffice. Of course, the thought of having a shiny new trinket was too much to resist also. Therefore, besides the John Travolta autographed Saturday Night Fever wardrobe and Bee Gees album, it appears my Brad Delp autographed Boston paraphernalia will see action on eBay now.
Cooling
The SG03 case comes with a very good 120mm fan and has an option for a second 120mm fan in the case. Considering the setup being installed, I decided another fan would be wise. I have always liked the Noctua NF-S12-800, but since the inclusion of additional case fans was outside the original budget I could not afford two of them. Silverstone offers a nice series of fans including the FN121 already installed in the case. At $9.99, it was a relative bargain but another fan that Wesley has recommended to me a hundred times showed up in the same price range. I have used Scythe fans in the past and always liked them. I decided to remove the Silverstone fan in my case, install it in my daughter's, and purchase a couple of fans for my system that provide very good airflow with excellent acoustics. The price of $12.99, down from $29.99, sealed the deal for me and I ordered two of them.
I had planned to use the retail Phenom X3 heatsink, but even though it fit fine, the clearances in this case were just a little too close for comfort as I wanted some additional maneuvering room. I had an extra Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 LP cooler that would have worked, but my OCD kicked in again so I went on the prowl for something different. Silverstone offers the passive NT06-Lite cooler designed with the SG series of cases in mind - provided you have the right power supply. Besides having a power supply with a different layout, the unit was just too large for my tastes.
I figured my best opportunity would be a 1U or 2U type cooler. Thermaltake offered a unit that looked perfect but it was socket F/1207 only. After several product searches, I ended up back at Silverstone with the NT07-AM2 low-profile cooler. However, this unit is for 65W or lower TDP processors and our Phenom 8650 X3 is a 95W TDP design. I decided to take a chance after finding one on clearance for $12.99 and $3 shipping. It worked fine at idle and under light loads, but for gaming or heavy encoding activities it just could not keep the X3 in the 50C~54C range that I needed.
I was back to square one; a couple of low-profile coolers from Cooljag/Dynatron would have worked except the noise levels were going to be significantly higher than the retail cooler at load. I had a friend suggest the Scythe Shuriken cooler and Cooler Master Vortex 752 that were working well in his HTPC configurations. I decided not to take the risk of spending more money or having my friend tear down his system. Anyway, cost reared its ugly head again with these options.
At this point, I pulled a Zalman CNPS-8700 out of my HT system just to see how well it would fit as I started to rethink my obsession with creating as much free area as possible around the CPU socket. The Zalman would work; the problem was a $54 price tag that I could not afford. It appeared I was going to have to settle for the retail cooler after all... until I went closet diving.
I remembered I had bought a couple of coolers from Rosewill when the Phenoms first arrived, but I never had a chance to use them after I realized the Phenoms were not going into normal system builds anytime soon. After digging through what I can only describe as a historical treasure trove of computer related items (Ed: stuff he is too lazy to dump), I found the box containing two Rosewill RCX-Z1 units. At first glance, they really did not seem to be an improvement over the retail unit and I started wondering why I purchased them.
It then occurred to me that this particular model comes with a fan controller that allows the user to tailor their fan speeds and is the reason I purchased them. I will say in testing that these units operate quieter than the retail units do, especially when you run the fan on low speed. Temperatures are about 3C~4C lower than the retail unit when the fan speed is above 85%. Whether it is worth $20 over the retail unit is debatable for a stock system. However, since they were technically "free" at this point, I was going to use them and deal with my phobia about the space requirements.
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jay401 - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
Gary - where can I read more about this card being cancelled? I wasn't aware it was cancelled and didn't see any news to that effect anywhere but sure enough it's no longer listed on Auzentech's products page. Thanks.Badkarma - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
Hi Gary,Have you heard anything from Nvidia as to why 5.1 LPCM via HDMI has been removed? Also, have you seen the posts on AVS stating that a Phenom is required to get BD playback? Do you know if Nvidia will be updating their drivers to allow X2 cpu's to playback properly?
Thanks.
royalcrown - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
Nice build, but I think you should have shopped more carefully for your video cards...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...turesmx-...
I got this ECS 8800 gts for 159.00 ( I asked for $10 off because it went up by ten.)
It would give you an average of 10 percent over the 8800gt for free and dump the heat outside the case, so maybe cooler even; most certainly it would kick the crap out of that radeon.
Don't be in a hurry next time when you buy video cards ;)
FYI- I am running mine on a 450 watt kingwin w no probs...
masouth - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
Do people bother to actually READ these articles before posting?This looks like a great deal but it seems fairly clear to me that he wants a single slot cooler.
FITCamaro - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
I just bought two of those cards for my system. Terrific value at that price. I replaced the cooler though with a Accelero S1 Rev. 2 w/ the turbo fan. Extremely quiet. Haven't seen temps yet though cause I only just got Vista loaded late last night. I was going for a near silent gaming system. Went with those coolers, a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, and 4 16db 54cfm 120mm fans(3 case, 1 cpu cooler). With the case open I barely hear everything.autoboy - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
My favorite cheap cooler is the Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 (or 64 if you want a 3 pin fan). You can find it for around $10-$13, and it is much quieter than the stock fans you get with the processor. They are not the greatest coolers for high heat processors, but for anything less than 65W with some fan control they are inaudible even in completely silent computers. I use them in all my regular builds except for my gaming rigs that see overclocking. I cannot recommend them enough and everyone that uses them (in 65W and lower rigs) loves them. I put one on a 95W Athlon at one time, and while the fan had to ramp up to where you could hear it, it was still much quieter than stock coolers and cooled the processor enough to keep it under 60C which is my cutoff.bauser - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
Interesting read, especially because I just built 3 mATX systems in a row. Total cost varied from $800 to $1000 CDN for each system. The tradeoff for the lower end system was the lack of a video card and sound card. Some savings were offset by the need for keyboard/mouse (at this price range 20 bucks makes a big difference).Your findings highlight that sacrifices must be made to save money. In this price range, every decision you make will have a cost/benefit consideration. Personally, I'd sacrifice the sound card and 5.1 speaker system and spend the extra dough on a better processor (E8400, Q6600) and motherboard. I'd also go for an 8800GT over the ATI. Good stuff, looking forward to part 2.
BPB - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
"I had bought new monitors for each of us last year so that major expense was out of the way. We both upgraded from first generation Acer 22" LCD panels (Ed: wonder what the parents will get for Christmas this year…) to the Gateway 24" FHD2400 we recently reviewed. I ended up purchasing a couple of under 30 day open box returns for $279 each, a major expense yes, but about $200 less than street price along with a new warranty."How the heck did you get two open box Gateways? I'd love to do the same.
poohbear - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
the AMD 4850E is relatively overclockable compared to a e7200? it wouldn't provide anywhere near the same overclock as an e7200. just fyi.Lightingguy - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - link
Good article! But as a builder of mid-range systems for friends and family, I've got to point out that your budgets/actual expenses don't include entries for the OS. While I'm sure that you can get a good deal given your connections, that is a major budget item for those of us out here who don't want to use a Linux release.