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  • Phynaz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Members of the Red Team will shell out all for these side grades. They never learn
  • wumpus - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    You'd think that with the money saved on Ryzen over Intel you could afford a decent Turing (or perhaps an older/used Pascal. No real advantage of going full Turing outside the money-is-no-object 2080ti).

    I guess that's the difference between fans and fanboys.
  • neblogai - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Learn what? For anyone knowing the industry- there are plenty of reasons TO NOT BUY NVIDIA, and to support the underdog. And now, with Navi, there are even better AMD options to buy a faster GPU for less.
  • elwro - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Well, remember that "SUPER" versions of RTX cards are about to arrive, so regular ones will get a price cut. And nowadays when AMD says about their card as "competitive with XYZ" it should be understood as "~5-10% slower on average than XYZ" (like Radeon VII vs 2080). So I guess waiting for price drop for regular 2070 better deal than getting 5700 XT.

    AMD is back in business in the CPU area, but unless we tak about the low-end cards, Red Team does not have impressive products. OK, Radeon VII is impressive if you're a person which does some AI/ML pet projects and likes to game at the same time, but that's a niche.

    I'm quite disapointed that there is not "Big Navi" this year. I plan to finally upgrade my 2600K/GTX970 rig and while choosing the CPU is easy (Ryzen 9 3950X is no-brainer for me), the GPU market right now sucks. I guess I go for used 1080 Ti, which is best value for 1440p gaming I guess...
  • imaheadcase - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    "fast" GPU, not faster. Supporting a underdog in a tech industry is the most insane logic i ever heard. Its not like you are shouting at some sports team. lol
  • Phynaz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    No kidding, rewarding a company for producing mediocre products, so they will continue to produce mediocre products. It takes some special thinking to justify that.
  • Korguz - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    and paying a company way to much for its products is better ?? its like saying, keep charging us these insane prices, even though most of us know they are over priced cause all you care about is your profits, and we will keep buying them at these prices... phynaz, you are the most dumbest, close minded, ignorant person i have seen yet.... seems like you want amd's vid card business to fail, to nvidia has no competition, and charge even more for their already overpriced products
  • Phynaz - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    And here’s one of the special thinkers now....
  • evernessince - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    Medicore as a metric depends on many variables. A 40% performance uplift over previous generation cards with a nice drop in power consumption and a vastly smaller die certainly seems less mediocre then the 27% performance increase along with higher power consumption and price increases across the board The only way you can rationalize these new AMD cards as mediorce is from a pure performance perspective compared to a $1,200 video card. Otherwise Nvidia's turning generation is far more mediocre, especially when you consider the price hikes. In fact it provides worse performance per dollar then the previous gen Nvidia cards, especially the new titan and 2080 Ti.
  • Qasar - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link

    evernessince, keep in mind, phynaz, is just trying to justify his purchase of his, my guess, 2080. a card he paid WAY to much for, for little gain over the 1000 series.....

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