German IT Distributor Publishes AMD+Intel Roadmaps: Z490, Z390, 8-Core CFL in Q4by Ian Cutress on May 3, 2018 11:35 AM EST
With Computex just around the corner, a lot of thought is being put to exactly what are we expecting to see at the show. There are questions about AMD’s next generation Threadripper parts, and when Intel is going to launch the Z390 chipset whose name has been floating around for a number of months now. Due to a video published online by bluechip Computer, an IT Distributor based in Germany, some more information is starting to come through.
The 30 minute presentation posted to YouTube was a webinar hosted for its business partners. In the video they go through what the rest of 2018 should look like from AMD and Intel, particularly when it comes to chipset offerings. Normally this information is held under NDA until launch, but companies like these will often brief their commercial partners in advance of new products and platforms. Typically this info is also under NDA, but the video was posted to YouTube.
This is the key slide. At the top we see the launches that have already taken place: AMD Raven Ridge APUs in February, the second wave of Coffee Lake CPUs in April, and the second generation Ryzen CPUs also in April. What follows is a bit of known and a bit of unknown.
Starting at the top, bluechip states that AMD is planning to launch a Z490 platform in June. This is somewhat new to us, although we have sources mention inklings of a Z490 chipset coming. At that time I assumed it was just a mental mistake of confusing it with an Intel platform, but now distributors are stating that AMD has a Z490 chipset coming, which essentially confirms the case. It looks like the future is going to revolve around AMD and Intel having the same chipset names it seems. Whether this platform will come in June or not we are unsure – June is Computex time. As for the features, that is currently unknown – AMD does trail Intel by a long way for what their chipsets can do, such as PCIe lane counts or embedded Wi-Fi.
Next is AMD’s B450 chipset for late July, which is an expected release. The previous generation B350 was a lower cost implementation of the X370, so now we have X470 on the playing field that offers lower power consumption, there will be a low cost equivalent.
Also known is AMD’s second generation Threadripper, along with a refresh of X399 motherboards. At CES, AMD stated that second generation TR would be coming in the second half of the year, and the presentation lists it as August, so essentially a year since the original TR release.
For Intel, discussion on when exactly Z390 is coming out (or another 14nm processor) has been rife. Z370 has now been out for around six months, powering the Coffee Lake processors, and the recent mid-range chipset update with integrated Wi-Fi has been expected to come into the high-end. We still do not know what exactly Z390 is bringing to the market, but bluechip lists it as a Q3 launch. So chances are we probably will not see many motherboards at Computex.
The interesting processor element to this presentation is that it lists an 8-core Coffee Lake processor being launched in Q4, while also stating that engineering samples are going to be in the hands of OEMs in June. This part of the slide is clearly cut/pasted from an Intel presentation, with what clearly looks like a watermark for whoever had the NDA. Some OEMs have accidentally let slip that an 8-core mainstream processor from Intel was inbound during 2018, and this is additional confirmation. I suspect that what people were not expecting was the date of Q4: if we take the exact placement of the arrow in the graph as the due date (as the other arrows seem as accurately spaced), then it would suggest a late November launch.
No word in the presentation was given to Cascade Lake or an X299 refresh, which could be interpreted as that we might see it in 2019, or bluechip does not have that information. They clearly list X99 Refresh on the Intel Chipset Roadmap slide, so to see the X299 Refresh label missing could lead to certain predictions, but we have no source on when an update to X299 is due.
Source: YouTube (via Twitter)
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Johan Steyn - Friday, May 4, 2018 - linkHow can you be so sure Intel did not know? They would do anything for performance to thrash competition.
Ket_MANIAC - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - linkSecurity in any way, be it small or big is always a big deal. IMO 90% gamers out there are a bunch of kids out there who know diddly squat about computers except Cinebench and water cooling. Its the average people who SHOULD begin to care. Stuff like this should be shown on major news outlets and national television. Just because the average Joe doen't know what microcode is doesn't mean he shouldn't be protected. As for your point about Google, they may have had something to do with it but their own OS is no better.
goldstone77 - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link"I just think people are making a bigger deal out of this then needs" You live in crazy town if you don't think people take this seriously! The greatest security threat making all computers in the last ~20 vulnerable to exploitation without leaving a trace behind! And just this morning 8 more variations of Spectre found! Anyone that doesn't want their secrets stolen would want this fixed on a hardware level!
Eight new Spectre Variant Vulnerabilities for Intel Discovered - four of them critical
by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 05/03/2018 10:55 AM
vanilla_gorilla - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link>The make this even crazy - it back fire and found not just to be on Intel but with AMD processors and even ARM.
So your theory is this was Google attacking Windows but they were too stupid to wonder if it affected ARM CPUs which somehow affects Google?
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Ket_MANIAC - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - linkJust because you weren't notified by your morning newspaper that your FB data, data from Equifax and countless other hacks was stolen and sold, doesn't mean it didn't or couldn't have happened.
Callous attitude and an air of indifference like this is the reason people don't care much about security but then go out on candle marches and protests when stuff like this surfaces.
Do you expect to know all the stuff that goes on behind our backs? Hundreds of thousands of DDoS, malware and phishing attacks are attempted everyday. Do you think you will know of every of those attacks?
HStewart - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - linkTo me going though the YouTube video, it looks mostly like old news combine together internal marketing for there own products.
gammaray - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - linkhow can AMD get away with calling a new platform Z490 ?? or X399?
plopke - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - linkI am just wondering what will the Z490 offer compared to the X470
Cooe - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - linkGigabyte's AM4 chipset list they sent a number of reviewers circa the 2nd Gen launch has Z490 having an additional 8x PCIe 3.0 (not 2.0) chipset lanes. Makes it more competitive with Intel's PCH on that front.