ECS A85F2-A Golden Review: All That Glittersby Ian Cutress on January 12, 2013 11:30 AM EST
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All the major motherboard manufacturers run different nomenclature when grouping their channel and high end products. ROG, Fatal1ty and Big Bang are to name a few, and each have an associated meaning with the name. Thus when products come along with a suffix such as ‘Golden’, we expect the best of the best, something that is number one. Gold is for winners, and we will not accept anything less, otherwise it would be Silver, Bronze, or a wooden spoon. The ECS Golden range covers graphics cards and motherboards, the latest of which is the motherboard we are testing today in the FM2/A85X Trinity line up – the ECS A85F2-A Golden.
ECS A85F2-A Golden Overview
Visually, I have to say that a golden color scheme on a motherboard works quite well in my option. As something to look at, if paired with the right accessories and hardware, it could be a work of art. Annoyingly, there major thing wrong with the previous statement is that there are no proper accessories that go well with a golden motherboard, except a golden GPU or a copper pipe water cooling setup. Despite this, several case builders and modders have taken up the challenge and produced a works of art in the gold-style theme, and it even takes center stage in ECS’ ModMen competition as the center piece of several builds. Gold also has status in certain parts of the world, and motherboards like the ECS A85F2-A Golden fit in that niche better than most.
The A85F2-A Golden currently e-tails for $126, which is at the high end of the FM2 spectrum, compared to ECS A85F2-A Deluxe which is around $89. For such a price, I would not be remiss in asking for a good look (check), a solid system in terms of performance, BIOS and software, and some extras in the box. On the board itself we get seven of the eight SATA 6 Gbps directly, and the final SATA 6 Gbps comes as an eSATA on the rear IO. ECS have decided to use a VIA VT1819S audio codec which performs well, and a standard Realtek NIC. Aside from having all four video outputs on the rear IO, we get a total of six USB 3.0 onboard and three fan headers (though on a board this side I would prefer at least five).
To start, on the release BIOS the motherboard failed to acknowledge a POST with my normal testing memory, a set of G.Skill 2400 C9. As there is no two-digit debug on the motherboard I was unsure as what the problem was, so I changed the CPU and GPU before using several memory kits to test. Eventually the board POSTed with a set of 1600 C9 memory installed – anything higher and no POST at all. As there is no BIOS update utility in the BIOS itself or at boot time, I had to update the BIOS after installing an OS. Before doing so, I noted that CPU-Z detected the 1600 C9 memory as either 1600 C5 (single channel) or 1600 C11 (dual channel). After updating to BIOS 11/14, the system was able to post with 2400 C9 installed. However, it would not accept that speed with XMP enabled, causing not to POST again – I adjusted the memory to 2133 C9 and the board booted. Even with this option, CPU-Z reported 1600 C11 being applied instead. This occurred over all our G.Skill memory kits (2133 C9, 1866 C9). As a result, our testing of the A85F2-A Golden is all done at 1600 C11 due to memory issues (we were sent the latest beta which had the same problems).
Despite the memory issues, the ECS board has a topsy-turvy results list. In terms of performance, the board applied the top turbo multiplier of the A10-5800K CPU (4.2 GHz) in all loading, meaning that in non-memory limiting multi-threaded tests, the ECS board came out as number one. In our Deferred Procedure Call latency test, the board spiked to over 600 microseconds, well above the 200 microsecond ‘great’ and 500 microseconds ‘acceptable’ limits, suggesting that there is part of the board that is given a lot higher priority in the call stack (possibly fans and temperature sensors) which could interfere with time-sensitive data recording.
The ECS BIOS has had a mild update for FM2, featuring a nice graphical EZ mode, albeit combined with the ‘wall-of-text’ advanced mode. As mentioned, there is no update BIOS option from the BIOS still, and fan controls are limited to a single fan header. There is a Windows 8 Fast Boot option, whereas Windows 7 with two GPUs clocked in at 11.50 seconds to POST. The software is also fairly dichotomous, with the overclocking tool eOC getting a face lift, but others such as eDLU and eBLU not connecting properly to ECS servers.
Overall, the ECS A85F2-A is a hard sell. It looks good if you like gold, and runs the processor out of the box at stock fairly fast, but if you want to overclock, put good memory in it or play around with fan settings, the options are fairly limited if they work at all.
ECS A85F2-A Golden Visual Inspection
The A85F2-A Golden itself plants the large AMD socket next to the golden VRM heatsinks, covering ECS ‘Hyper Alloy Chokes’. The socket area has access to a single fan header to the top right of the socket which is slightly annoying – the best motherboards offer at least three in the socket area for additional cooling options.
The motherboard is slightly smaller than the ATX standard in the left-to-right dimension, measuring 220mm rather than the usual 244mm. This allows ECS to drop the mounting points on the right hand side and place components like the SATA connectors up against the motherboard edge. We have seen this on other motherboards from other manufacturers as well.
On the right hand side, our memory slots use double side latches despite a general motherboard market drift to single side memory latches. Beside these is the 24-pin ATX power connector, and below we have the SATA ports. The A85X chipset specification gives us a total of eight SATA 6 Gbps ports to use, of which ECS place six here in a normal SATA placement, and one more coming out of the board behind the SATA block. The eighth SATA 6 Gbps port is routed to the rear IO panel as an eSATA 6 Gbps port. Next to the SATA ports is the golden chipset heatsink. Note that there is no power/reset buttons or two-digit debug LED on the motherboard for system debugging – something that frustrated me to no end on the default BIOS and memory compatibility as mentioned above.
On the bottom of the board we get the front panel audio, a COM header, an SPDIO header, two of the fan headers, a USB 3.0 header, three USB 2.0 headers and a Clear CMOS switch. Above these are the PCIe slots, which give an x1, x16 (x8 in dual mode), x1, x1, x8, PCI, PCI. This allows users with two full length double-slot GPUs to have access to two x1 slots and a PCI slot for other devices as needed.
The rear IO panel is a fairly standard representation of a normal FM2 IO panel – we get all the video outputs (D-Sub, DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort), a ClearCMOS button, two USB 2.0, an eSATA 6 Gbps, four USB 3.0, a Realtek 8111E NIC, and audio ports from a VIA VT1819S. Normally I prefer more than two USB 2.0 ports on the back panel for installing Windows 7 via USB, which typically needs one for the USB stick, one for the keyboard and one for the mouse, although the mouse is not strictly necessary.
|ECS A85F2-A Golden|
Four DDR3 DIMM slots supporting up to 64 GB
Dual Channel, 1066-2600MHz
|Onboard LAN||Realtek 8111E|
|Onboard Audio||VIA VT1819S|
2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x16/- or x8/x8)
3 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI
7 x SATA 6 Gbps (Chipset), RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
1 x eSATA 6 Gbps
4 x USB 3.0 (Chipset) [4 back panel]
2 x USB 3.0 (Controller) [2 onboard]
8 x USB 2.0 (Chipset) [2 back panel, 6 onboard]
7 x SATA 6 Gbps
1 x USB 3.0 Header
3 x USB 2.0 Headers
3 x Fan Headers
1 x COM Header
1 x ClearCMOS Header
Front Panel Header
1 x 24-pin ATX Power Connector
1 x 8-pin CPU Power Connector
1 x CPU (4-pin)
1 x SYS (3-pin)
1 x PWR (3-pin)
2 x USB 2.0
4 x USB 3.0
1 x eSATA 6 Gbps
1 x D-Sub
1 x DVI-D
1 x HDMI
1 x DisplayPort
1 x Realtek NIC
1 x Clear_CMOS Button
1 x SPDIF Optical Output
|Warranty Period||3 Years|
On the hardware side, using the VIA VT1819S is something different in the land of FM2 motherboards that we have tested. I am a little disappointed in the lack of fan headers – I would normally expect at least three around the socket and two at other places on the board, with the ability to control the voltage/power to them. The lack of a two digit-debug on motherboards like this can be a frustrating experience when something goes wrong and you are never entirely sure what the problem is.
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ForeverAlone - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - linkWhy so much power and so many slots/plugs on such an underpowered chipset?
You'll never need to crossfire/SLI graphics cards with a CPU as weak as the A10-5800K.
Oscarcharliezulu - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - linkThis has got to be the most poorly penned review I've read in a while. I reads mostly like a cut and paste jumble. You repeat yourself constantly. The grammar makes my brain hurt. Your assumptions about what "golden" represents is just space filler. For a moment I thought I was reading a bad auto-translate. Lastly, admitting you look around the web at other opinions and I now am not sure if this review is your opinion or some kind of reference to what other people have said. Please do over. D-.
IanCutress - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - linkI do admit that sometimes my British idiosyncrasies come through more on some reviews than others, but it's not something I should apologize for. It did get a thorough triple check before going live, as do all my reviews. If there is something that completely boggles the mind, please feel free to email me for clarification.
Regarding space filler, my review is meant to cater for a large percentage of the potential readership, and thus explaining design philosophy to those not accustomed to it is part of the package.
As for looking at other reviews and such, I would be a poor academic researcher if I did not find reference and justification for the results and final opinions of the board. To go in blind would be completely remiss, especially if I come across a fringe issue, or fail to come across a significant issue because I do not specifically test for it. I am a strong advocate in researching a topic before discussing it, especially in such a public facing publication such as AnandTech.
JonnyDough - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - linkThis is actually one of the sharpest boards I have ever seen. As for the gold coated rear ports, I'm not sure if those are necessary, but if the price is right I wouldn't be complaining. Very ooglable! :)
lordcheeto - Monday, January 14, 2013 - linkYou should review the Biostar Hi-Fi A85W. That's what I have, and it looks good and performs good. Not sure how it stacks up against the boards you have tested, but I think it will do well.
sudz - Monday, January 14, 2013 - link(though on a board this side I would prefer at least five).
Rick83 - Monday, January 14, 2013 - linkout of the box?
Back in the Athlon days, main board makers were using this trick to gain a few points in benchmarks, but thankfully it gradually disappeared again.
Now many different main boards hit the market, that overclock CPUs out of the box. This is not acceptable in my book, as I want all components in my system to play fair with one another, and adhere to the well known specs.
This kind of fudging around for a few percent of performance in some computation benchmarks, that don't even reflect real world gains, should be harshly judged.
After reading this, I stopped reading the rest of the review.
One other note. As you write scientific articles, why do you not preface your articles with an abstract? I think this would increase reading efficiency. If the main strong and weak points, as well as the verdict can be resumed on the front page, then a lot of time reading non-essential information can be used otherwise.
CeriseCogburn - Monday, January 14, 2013 - linkECS is plenty big, and has a lot of good boards toward the cheaper end at all levels.
The problem here is AMD and it's crap. The overclock page is embarrassing.
Another unstable piece of amd centered junk.
dgingeri - Monday, January 14, 2013 - linkSorry, after my past experiences, no matter how nice you find this board and no matter how inexpensive it is, I am not ever going to buy ECS hardware. I had a motherboard that was bad out of the box, returned it for warranty replacement, got 3 used ones in a row, including one with the socket lever broken, that were also non-functional over the course of 3 months, and then declared the board was no longer under warranty because it was beyond 90 days. (This was way back in the socket 5 days.) I swore off them then and have never bought another one, in nearly 20 years.
Not gonna happen. I won't trust them again.
ggathagan - Monday, January 14, 2013 - linkNot particularly a fan of ECS, but I think 20 years is long enough to hold a grudge.
It would be a surprise if 80% of the ECS employees in 1991 are still working there.