ASRock DeskMeet B660 Review: An Affordable NUC Extreme?
by Ganesh T S on January 23, 2023 8:30 AM EST- Posted in
- Systems
- ASRock
- SilverStone
- SFF
- Mushkin
- Alder Lake
- B660
- DeskMeet
- Raptor Lake
Setup Notes and Platform Analysis
Upon completion of the hardware configuration, the available BIOS options were looked into. The system initially came up with the four DIMMs operating at DDR4-3200, but activating the XMP profile immediately bumped it up to DDR4-3600. Since the DeskMeet B660 is a consumer-focused system, the UEFI has all the bells and whistles including the ability to update firmware directly from the Internet and fine-grained control of the fan speeds in relation to the temperatures.
By default, the BIOS opens up in the 'Easy View' mode which gives an overview of the system components (processor, DRAM, storage), and system information (temperature and cooling status). Boot priorities can also be modified in this view. More adventurous users can opt for the 'Advanced Mode' view, which allows for fine-grained overclocking of the CPU and DRAM as allowed by the system components under the 'OC Tweaker' tab.
The BIOS also allows selective enabling of the P-cores and E-cores, configuring various PCIe device aspects like ASPM, SR-IOV, etc. Under the 'Tools' tab, support for secure erasing of SSDs is available. Other standard options like secure boot are also available.
ASRock's documentation of the B660-ITX doesn't unfortunately include a block diagram of the I/Os in relation to the processor and the chipset. We resorted to HWiNFO to provide us with the details after connecting different peripherals to the various USB ports and a temporary SSD to the empty M.2 NVMe SSD slot. The diagram below presents the overall high-speed I/O distribution.
The most surprising aspect gleaned from the bus organization report relates to the CPU-attached PCIe lanes for the NVMe SSD. While I had mistakenly inferred that the slot on the underside was the CPU-attached one, it turns out that the one near the PCIe add-in card slot is the ideal slot to connect the boot SSD to. Unfortunately, I realized this only after all the evaluation had been completed, but it is something that other DeskMeet B660 users can keep in mind for optimal storage performance. Other than that, all other I/Os are as expected, sourced off a single 20 Gbps USB root hub in the PCH.
In this review, we compare the DeskMeet B660 and a host of other SFF systems capable of accommodating a discrete GPU add-in card.
Comparative PC Configurations | ||
Aspect | ASRock DeskMeet B660 | |
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700F Alder Lake-S 8C + 4c / 20T, 1.6 - 4.9 GHz Intel 7, 12MB L2 + 25MB L3, 65 W (PL1 = 65W, PL2 = 126W) |
Intel Core i7-12700F Alder Lake-S 8C + 4c / 20T, 1.6 - 4.9 GHz Intel 7, 12MB L2 + 25MB L3, 65 W (PL1 = 65W, PL2 = 126W) |
GPU | AMD Radeon RX 6400 (Navi 24) 4GB GDDR6 (768 SPs @ 2039 MHz) |
AMD Radeon RX 6400 (Navi 24) 4GB GDDR6 (768 SPs @ 2039 MHz) |
RAM | Mushkin Redline Frostbyte MRX4U360GKKP16G DDR4-3600 DIMMs 16-19-19-39 @ 3600 MHz (XMP 1.0) 4x16 GB |
Mushkin Redline Frostbyte MRX4U360GKKP16G DDR4-3600 DIMMs 16-19-19-39 @ 3600 MHz (XMP 1.0) 4x16 GB |
Storage | Mushkin Vortex Redline MKNSSDVT2TB-D8 (2 TB; M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe;) (Micron 176L 3D TLC; InnoGrit IG5236 Controller) |
Mushkin Vortex Redline MKNSSDVT2TB-D8 (2 TB; M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe;) (Micron 176L 3D TLC; InnoGrit IG5236 Controller) |
Wi-Fi | 1x GbE RJ-45 (Intel I219-V) | 1x GbE RJ-45 (Intel I219-V) |
Price (in USD, when built) | (Street Pricing on January 23rd, 2022) USD 191 (barebones) US $863 (as configured, no OS) |
(Street Pricing on January 23rd, 2022) USD 191 (barebones) US $863 (as configured, no OS) |
While we have reviewed many SFF systems with discrete GPUs in the past, only the NUC Extreme models were available for re-benching again with our latest benchmark suite. The next few sections will deal with comparative benchmarks for the above systems.
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ganeshts - Thursday, February 9, 2023 - link
I apologize for the error in the comment above. There is plenty of space available on the inside of the inner frame to mount 2x 2.5" disk drives adjacent to the front I/O.Please check the first column in the picture here:
https://www.asrock.com/nettop/sticker/MeetX300-Exp...
Note that the 3.5" drive installation could cause interference with cabling if a dual slot GPU is installed, but 2.5" drives should not be an issue.
ganeshts - Friday, January 27, 2023 - link
Yes, there is a 8-pin connector from the PSU. You can also check out the Graphics Card QVL on the ASRock website for the product. There are a few 3060 models in there.Hrel - Thursday, January 26, 2023 - link
still way too many trade offs, going smaller than mini-ITX just takes you out of the PC world in every meaningful way. GPU's that fit this thing are almost exclusively Nvidia and the fastest you can get is RTX3060... however with one fan on the card and that small space it's gonna die quickly, as well as the rest of these components.Mr.Vegas - Friday, January 27, 2023 - link
There is 3060ti made by asus that fits there, dual slot and less than 20cmshrimp_parm - Thursday, February 9, 2023 - link
"Since the DeskMeet B660 is a consumer-focused system, the UEFI has all the bells and whistles including the ability to update firmware directly from the Internet and fine-grained control of the fan speeds in relation to the temperatures."Is it possible to update bios via internet without the need for a 12th gen cpu, to accommodate 13th gen cpu's?
Thanks
LMao HAHA - Sunday, March 12, 2023 - link
I have one and want to know actually. I still need CPU and haven't build it since Nov. But I think if you bought one recently past 2023, it may have the 13th gen Bios ready.marcelop67 - Monday, February 13, 2023 - link
This makes a great little Proxmox server. I have installed an i5 12400, 128GB memory, dual Samsung 980 PRO 1TB, dual WD Red 2TD SATA SSD's and an Intel quad port PCIe card,When you are concerned about the M.2 SSD slot on the motherboard's underside, you can use a Be quiet! MC1 M2 SSD heatsink. It fits perfectly and reduces the operating temperature by ~15 degrees Celsius. (at least with my Samsung 980 Pro's).