AMD: Next Gen Threadripper and Ryzen 9 3950X, Coming November
by Dr. Ian Cutress on September 20, 2019 1:00 PM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- Ryzen
- ThreadRipper
- Zen 2
- Ryzen 3000
- Ryzen 9 3950X
In a shock email late on Friday, AMD has released a statement to clarify the situation it is in with the manufacturing of its latest Ryzen processors. And, depending on what kind of a processor you're after, it's both a good and bad announcement.
The downside? AMD is delaying its release of the 16 core Ryzen 9 3950X. Their flagship consumer desktop CPU, which will feature a full 16 CPU cores, was originally slated for September; however it is now delayed until November. According to the company, the delay is needed due to the high demand for these parts and that time is needed to ensure that sufficient stock is available
| AMD Ryzen 3000 7 & 9 Series CPUs | |||||||||||
| AnandTech | Cores Threads |
Base Freq |
Boost Freq |
L2 Cache |
L3 Cache |
PCIe 4.0 |
TDP | Launch Date | Price (SEP) |
||
| Ryzen 9 | 3950X | 16C | 32T | 3.5 | 4.7 | 8 MB | 64 MB | 16+4+4 | 105W | Nov. 2019 | $749 |
| Ryzen 9 | 3900X | 12C | 24T | 3.8 | 4.6 | 6 MB | 64 MB | 16+4+4 | 105W | July 2019 | $499 |
| Ryzen 7 | 3800X | 8C | 16T | 3.9 | 4.5 | 4 MB | 32 MB | 16+4+4 | 105W | July 2019 | $399 |
| Ryzen 7 | 3700X | 8C | 16T | 3.6 | 4.4 | 4 MB | 32 MB | 16+4+4 | 65W | July 2019 | $329 |
The upside? The next generation of Threadripper processors are coming, and they will enter the market in November as well. These parts will start at 24 cores, so anyone needing single-socket CPUs with more than 12 cores will find themselves with an abundance of options to choose from.
The statement from AMD says:
We are focusing on meeting the strong demand for our 3rd generation AMD Ryzen processors in the market and now plan to launch both the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X and initial members of the 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor family in volume this November. We are confident that when enthusiasts get their hands on the world’s first 16-core mainstream desktop processor and our next-generation of high-end desktop processors, the wait will be well worth it.
As far as we understand, this is nothing to do with recent reports of TSMC requiring 6 months for new 7nm orders: the silicon for these processors would have been ordered months ago, with the only real factor being binning and meeting demand. It will be interesting to see how the intersection of the 16 core with next gen Ryzen will play out.
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WaltC - Saturday, September 21, 2019 - link
The demand for AMD's Zen2 has blown away all of the company's internal estimates--the demand for these fantastic CPUs exceeds AMD's studied projections. With demand skyrocketing, there is no way the original estimates could hold, because the nice thing about this from AMD's perspective is that their most expensive Zen2 CPUs are the most in demand! Seems to be a trend here.ValiumMm - Monday, September 23, 2019 - link
its already been fixed though, why you bringing this up?Spunjji - Monday, September 23, 2019 - link
Astroturfing or fanboy rage, never really clear which is which anymore. Both are annoying and harmful to anyone looking to actually learn something.eek2121 - Monday, September 23, 2019 - link
Ryzen chips are boosting just fne. That being said, I read somewhere the other day that the new Threadripper chips (or at least 1 of the SKUs) is using a new socket. I wonder if Ian has any insights into this?Smell This - Friday, September 20, 2019 - link
I guess this is a good/bad news kind-of-thang.
Launch is delayed, but demand is up (especially considering the enterprise side). Any input on demand of the various chiplets?
rahvin - Friday, September 20, 2019 - link
Glad to see them finally set a date. They've been saying Q4 for launch since the Q2 Financial call for TR3. I've been worried the retail side wouldn't see much because the cloud companies were sucking up all the silicon like the original Epyc that you couldn't buy for 6months after release because Google, Amazon and the others were soaking up the whole production run. I hope the same thing doesn't happen with TR3 and AMD has stockpiled enough to get it into the retail channel as well.You still can't really buy the 3900X on Amazon at the MSRP or below unless you get lucky and login right when a shipment arrives. I've only seen it available once at the MSRP. So AMD still has really strong demand for Ryzen Gen3 in the retail channel. I expect the 3950 will be even worse and the TR3 could suffer the same fate if they don't stockpile before release to retail.
catavalon21 - Saturday, September 21, 2019 - link
I agree. Having a product which is good enough for demand to strain supply is a good thing for AMD - especially if it's the very profitable EPYC line - just don't wait so long to fill retail channels that competition has time to catch up, or for consumer interest to wane.5080 - Friday, September 20, 2019 - link
This doesn't look good for future Ryzen APU's. Since there is already an issue with delivery times on TSMC's 7nm process for orders that have been placed months ago it will just get worse with all the mobile SoC (Qualcomm's 865 and Apple's A13) required over the next few months. It could take another year before we see any Ryzen 3 based APU's on the market.Flunk - Friday, September 20, 2019 - link
Ryzen 3 APUs are out now. They always fab the APU chips on the previous process with the previous core design. Ryzen 4 will be the first 7nm Zen 2 APUs.brucethemoose - Saturday, September 21, 2019 - link
The bulldozer APUs came out alongside the desktop CPUs with the same core generations, IIRC. Heck, the bulldozer cores got an extra iteration on mobile that the desktop never saw, as did K10 with the llano APUs.