AMD Launches Ryzen 7 2800H & Ryzen 5 2600H APUs for High-Performance Laptopsby Anton Shilov on September 18, 2018 12:30 PM EST
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AMD has quietly added two new APUs into its lineup of products. Based on AMD's existing Raven Ridge silicon, the new Ryzen 7 2800H and Ryzen 5 2600H chips with integrated Radeon graphics consume up to 45 W and are aimed at high-performance laptops.
AMD’s Ryzen 5 2600H and Ryzen 7 2800H APUs pack four Zen cores with SMT enable, and run at 3.2 and 3.3 GHz base frequency (respectively). Meanwhile graphics is provided by the integrated Radeon RX Vega 8 or Vega 11 iGPU. The new APUs clock their general-purpose cores significantly higher (1 GHz+) when compared to AMD’s lower-power Ryzen 5 2500U and Ryzen 7 2700U APUs that were introduced last year, but at the cost of a 3x higher TDP. Meanwhile, the new chips feature exactly the same integrated graphics, featuring 512 or 704 stream processors and clocked at 1.1 GHz and 1.3 GHz.
AMD’s latest H-series APUs use with a 45 W default TDP can be configured down or up to support 35 W or 54 W TDPs, giving AMD's customers a range of options for balancing performance with energy efficiency. As for form-factors, the Ryzen 5 2600H and Ryzen 7 2800H chips use the FP5 packaging, the same as used by other mobile processors from AMD. One thing to keep in mind is that since the new APUs are considerably more power hungry than their U-series counterparts, laptop makers will still have to install them into an appropriate chassis.
|AMD Ryzen 2000 H-Series APUs|
|Cores||4 / 8|
|Base CPU Freq||3.2 GHz||3.3 GHz|
|Turbo CPU Freq||3.6 GHz||3.8 GHz|
|TDP @ Base||45 W|
|cTDP||35 - 54 W|
|L2 Cache||512 KB/core|
|L3 Cache||4 MB|
|Graphics||Vega 8||Vega 11|
|Compute Units||8 CUs||11 CUs|
|Streaming Processors||512 SPs||704 SPs|
|Turbo GPU Freq||1100 MHz||1300 MHz|
|DRAM Support||DDR4-3200 Dual Channel|
AMD has not issued any press releases on the matter, but simply added the new APUs into its list of its products. Therefore, we do not have any official information concerning pricing and availability of new processors at hand. In the meantime, we do know that Lenovo has listed AMD’s H-series mobile APUs already, so expect the company to offer laptops powered by such processors in the coming months.
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Dragonstongue - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkshame we do not get a full out Vega 28 GPU that uses GDDR5...they did this for that chinese console, get rid of the cpu side of it, and put the Vega 28 on the market, allow folks to use whatever CPU they want and get a "pretty good" GPU at a more affordable price then V56 and 64 can be had at.
if they can do this with an APU, there is nothing "stopping them" from doing it for a stand alone GPU...even if it were only available from them directly, HBM2 is "cool" but also quite expensive, GDDR5/5x are quite a bit lower cost and if they are "only" feeding 28 or 32 CU likely the "bottleneck" will be virtually non existent.
hell if you "tune" a vega 56 you can easily get it below 100w, if you can do that with a 56 CU model, then a 28 or 32 CU should be able to get down to 50-75w at full clocks.
at least it will be a "kind of" refresh before Navi which may or may not be before 1Q2019 (who knows how good or bad it will be)
hopefully AMD reworks gpu driver in this time as well to allow FORCED clock and voltage if the user should so wish (as well as a "quick click" for profiles like afterburner uses, which wattman best I can tell really does not....while they are at it, they should unbundle wattman from drivers and leave as optional download/activation)
but yes going by what others are saying, no matter if AMD made this a configurable TDP and out of box support for DDR4 3200+, vendors (such as HP, or Lenovo) likely will butcher what performance it can have by only using DDR4 2400 (high timings) a very poor battery capacity etc and still slap on a noticeably higher buying cost because "it is the best model of AMD APU in H series currently.
MrSpadge - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkI think it would be nice to have the configurable TDP as a small symbol in the task bar. Just 1 or 2 clicks to reduce fan noise (TDP down) for extended loads or max performance in e.g. a struggling game (TDP up).
neblogai - Friday, September 21, 2018 - linkYes, that is badly needed. High CPU boosting hurts battery life, and takes away power from iGPU in games. An easy way to switch between TDP and CPU/iGPU power distribution profiles would make AMD laptops so much better.
Ankou - Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - linkSo maybe a stupid question but isn't the Ryzen Pro faster and what ever happened to the AMD Ryzen Pro w Vega processors and laptops announced back in March:
This laptop has been "coming soon" since March and still not available:
Actually none of these AMD Ryzen PRO are showing available still:
duploxxx - Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - linkthe ryzen pro has been released since late august for OEM and can be ordered now.
I already have an early sample on my desk for testing. It is a huge step up from the A pro series. If you see benchmarks the A series were affordable parts vs intel but lacked some punch and did have some power consumption overhead. Now with ryzen you get affordable and comparable performance and power consumption vs intel.
velanapontinha - Monday, November 26, 2018 - linkI have 4 HP Elitebook laptops in my company sporting the 2700U processor. These are actually very good. I'll probably get 45 more early next year.
TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, September 20, 2018 - link" In the meantime, we do know that Lenovo has listed AMD’s H-series mobile APUs already, so expect the company to offer laptops powered by such processors in the coming months."
It took lenovo almost a year to release a ryzen machine after the launch of ryzen. The ryzen powered A285/485 are STILL not out. We will see these chips sometime in 2020 im sure.
Honestly I am more interested in a 5 watt ryzen chip. For 11 and 13 inch machines, ULV CPUs are the norm, and AMD is still selling Bristol ridge there, where it is completely non-competitive. I would love to see an inspiron 11 2 in 1 with a ryzen APU instead of carrizo.
vorikuxu - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - linkI have HP Elitebook laptops in my company sporting the 9700U processor. These are actually very good for 4k sites - https://4kpornindex.com