Ryzen Mobile Now On Sale: HP’s ENVY X360by Ian Cutress on November 14, 2017 12:20 PM EST
The biggest question when AMD formally launched its Ryzen Mobile platform was all about ‘when’. At the time AMD announced three primary partners and three systems, with the aim that all the units would be available before the holidays. When we spoke to the vendors, only HP seemed to have a closer date than ‘Q1’, with the Envy X360 planned for some time in November. This week it formally went on sale over at hp.com, and it seems to also be available at retail over at Best Buy.
Stopped by @BestBuy today. Picked up the first @AMDRyzen mobile with @Radeon Vega graphics. Thanks to @HP team for great partnership. https://t.co/6LQGlEwnjQ pic.twitter.com/PYaJXlNbST— Lisa Su (@LisaSu) November 13, 2017
We reported on the unit at launch: the HP Envy x360 with Ryzen Mobile is a 15.6-inch convertible laptop with a 1920x1080 edge-to-edge display, and will feature the AMD Ryzen 5 2500U quad-core SoC. This processor uses four of AMD’s Zen cores, running up to 3.6 GHz, paired with Vega 8 graphics (that’s 8 compute units, so 512 Vega SPs) running up to 1100 MHz with a 15W TDP. It is listed as having 6MB of cache, although this is split between 2 MB of L2 cache, and 4 MB of L3 cache (and the caches are very different in their use).
At Ryzen Mobile launch, it was stated that the Envy x360 would only support 8 GB of DRAM maximum, which to most people was a little odd. Thankfully that is not the case, and HP offers up to 16 GB. HP initially offered the unit with a 4+4 GB DDR4-2400 dual-channel memory configuration, although that seems to have already been sold out, with 12 GB (4+8) and 16 GB (8+8) options left. The base storage option is a 1TB SATA hard drive, although for a premium HP does offer several PCIe NVMe SSD options or combinations therein.
The design uses a full-size island-style backlit keyboard with a numeric keypad, and the unit comes with a 3-cell, 55.8 Wh battery, and Intel 802.11ac wireless connectivity. There is an IR camera for Windows Hello support, a USB-C with DisplayPort and with power capabilities, and HP lists the laptop as able to drive two UHD displays. HP’s partnership with Bang & Olufsen continues, handling the audio duties. It also features a stylus for Windows Ink.
|HP ENVY x360 Ryzen Mobile|
|CPU||AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
2.0GHz to 3.6GHz
|GPU||AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
8 Radeon RX Vega CUs
Up to 1100 MHz
|Display||15.6" 1920x1080 IPS with Touch|
|Memory||8 GB (4+4) DDR4-2400
12 GB (4+8) DDR4-2400
16 GB (8+8) DDR4-2400
|Storage||Up to 512 GB SSD
Up to 1 TB HDD
Up to 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD
|Wireless||Intel 802.11ac w/Bluetooth 4.2|
|I/O||1 USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 with DP 1.2 and Power
2 USB 3.0
|Power||65W AC Adapter
55.8 Wh Battery
|Dimensions||14.16" x 9.8" x 0.77"|
|Starting Price||$699 with 8GB DRAM + 1TB HDD|
So when this laptop initially went on sale, the base configuration (8GB of memory, 1TB HDD) was being sold with an additional discount for $599 total. Very quickly it seems that the deal ran out, as well as the 8GB memory configuration. Currently, the website offers the 12GB memory configuration, still with the 1TB storage option, but for $805 and shipping set for 11/27. Obviously, this price is not as lucrative as the $599 price, but seems more than reasonable when compared to the Intel version. The Intel version, when not running a brand new $200 discount, features a Core i7-8550U with HD630 graphics, the same DRAM/storage combo, but with a non-IR enabled camera, for $930. It would be interesting to see how they match up in CPU performance, gaming performance, and power consumption.
I am told we have a unit incoming for review. Watch this space.
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0ldman79 - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkAgreed.
1TB drive for $270?
Alexvrb - Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - linkWelcome to OEM markups, especially on mobile device configs. Not exactly a new thing... heh.
peevee - Thursday, November 16, 2017 - linkYou mean for $580, right? And that excludes the 1TB HDD which is $130 itself. So they want $710 effectively.
lefty2 - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkYou can see some preliminary benchmarks here: http://apusilicon.com/hp-envy-x360-w-ryzen-first-i...
Valantar - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkThat. Looks. Amazing.
Sure, the Skull Canyon NUC beat its 3DMark CPU scores by 45%, but that's at 3x the TDP and not in a thin laptop. And those graphics scores! For a 15W chip! Hot damn.
ilt24 - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkFor a better comparison, here are links to Geekbench 4 CPU and OpenCL results submitted for a pair of HP ENVY x360's one has an AMD Ryzen 5 2500U and the other has an Intel Core i7-8550U.
Geekbench 4 CPU
ilt24 - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkoops...just noticed that the Intel version of the x360 has a Nvidia MX150 GPU, so not a fair comparison.
vladx - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkMX150 is exactly the competition for these new Ryzen APUs, I mean it's a freakin' GT 1030 inside, if the Vega with 8 CUs can't beat it, it's a total failure.
sonicmerlin - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - linkAnything that requires a limited power envelope in relation to Vega is automatically a failure. The GPU is just terrible.
JasonMZW20 - Thursday, November 16, 2017 - linkVega is actually a lot like Ryzen: more efficient at lower clocks.
I've tuned my 64 down to 145w mining Ethereum at ~40.5MH/s. 1252MHz@0.900v, 1100MHz HBM. Now cut that down to 8CUs (64/8=8) and -152MHz. It's better than most give it credit for, but was pushed past its efficiency range to better compete with the 1080.